points by blakesterz 6 years ago

I think there's some good points in there, but I'm not sure about this one:

"Firefox is filling up with ads, tracking, and mandatory plugins."

I feel like I follow these issues pretty close, and I don't think that's accurate. Did I miss somethings? I know they've made at least a few bad moves, but in general they do the right thing, and have stepped back some of the bad things. It's entirely possible I'm missing something though.

ddevault 6 years ago

Ads:

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/12/31/firefox-with-ads-on-new-ta...

https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-60-will-show-sponsored...

Tracking:

https://gist.github.com/0XDE57/fbd302cef7693e62c769

https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefox-tests-cliqz-engine-whi... (ads, too)

Mandatory plugins:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9667809

There are more cases of each, but these are the ones I thought of off-hand. Setting up Firefox today still requires you to manually go to about:config and turn off a whole bunch of crap. A stock install of Firefox has ads and sends telemetry, searches, and more to both third- and first-party network services.

  • progval 6 years ago

    > Setting up Firefox today still requires you to manually go to about:config and turn off a whole bunch of crap.

    An alternative is to use packages provided by Debian (and possibly other distributions), which turn most of this stuff off by default

    • 72deluxe 6 years ago

      But but but how do I do this on my Mac and Windows machines??

      Time to go back to Linux. Hopefully the desktop has improved since the abandonment of 30-year-old UI paradigms for "cleanliness and focus".

  • pornel 6 years ago

    These are totally bullshit things blown out of proportion. These are trials that never went live, and/or weren't even nearly as bad as the uproar make them to be.

    Come on, the Pocket hysteria? It's a bit of JS and a one button you can turn off with two clicks. Pocket is now owned by Mozilla. It's a Firefox feature now, and not any more of "mandatory plugin" than the Sync or Add On Store are. I thought you were at least flipping out about EME, which is a 3rd party code and actually a plug-in.

    Your central point is valid. There's no need to embellish it with clickbait backed by sources that are clickbait themselves.

raxxorrax 6 years ago

The only negative thing that comes to mind is pocket. DoH is also controversial due to the implementation, but at least I understand the incentive they had.

I just hope Firefox keeps being a real counterpart to Chrome and doesn't try to mirror it. Funding is a problem as Mozilla is far too dependant on Google, but I don't know a solution to that.

vikingcaffiene 6 years ago

Lost me there too. FF has had a few foibles but has course corrected quickly. It's my daily driver and certainly haven't seen anything like that happening.