points by throwaway6845 6 years ago

Mostly, headspace. If I run my own server, I just need to apply my existing Ubuntu sysadmin knowledge. If I use AWS, I have to learn a whole load of AWS-specific domain knowledge, starting with their utterly baffling product names. My time is more valuable than that.

Also, sheer cost. Literally everyone I know in my particular part of the industry uses Hetzner boxes. For what I do, it’s orders of magnitude cheaper than AWS.

XCSme 6 years ago

I agree, I remember when I learned to use Google Cloud for ML training, it took so much time to learn how to setup everything and to go around all their gotchas. I then tried getting started with AWS, but their poor interface and unfamiliar grounds made me stick to using plain VPSs.

sixothree 6 years ago

We're a small business and hosting costs are killing us. Spending $300+ on a small VM that I can only describe as measly really hurts.

  • MattGaiser 6 years ago

    What the heck are you running? Ouch.

    • sixothree 6 years ago

      When you factor in storage, backups, and all the little support costs, things start to get pricey. Just the db can go from 500gb to a tb. Then all of that data came from somewhere and needs to be stored at least for a while.

      Never mind the load balancing. And then we need another server for a different client, and another, and a demo server, and test & staging environments. Ugh. I wish this were on-premmable. We could probably hire an employee for the amount we could save. He'd probably be pulling his hair out supporting it tho. lol

      My little on-prem HP dev server's got hundred gigs of ram and 8tb of fast storage. We run a bunch of VMs on there. We paid a couple of thousand dollars for it. And I don't even want to think of what it would cost to ship those VMs to the cloud. Nevermind just how poorly they would perform.

  • ClumsyPilot 6 years ago

    I have recwntly put together a K8S clyster out of old and bargain basement hardware for hosting personal projects. Equivalent perf. from big cloud would cost me $ 400++

    • Nextgrid 6 years ago

      Similar situation here but on a bandwidth level. A 1Gbps leased line costs me ~400 bucks a month and is unmetered even if I keep it saturated for the entire month. I don’t even want to imagine the cost of that on a cloud provider.

HatchedLake721 6 years ago

That’s how you get old, when your time is more valuable than a massive shift in technology.

  • henriquez 6 years ago

    Nah, we already did mainframes in the 1970s. Renting CPU time only makes sense if you don’t need CPU time or you like wasting money.

  • Silhouette 6 years ago

    Whether some new technology is worth learning and using depends on your circumstances: would you gain more than it would cost? Understanding this isn't about being old, it's about being wise.

  • throwaway6845 6 years ago

    It's a common HN fallacy that everyone here is a developer whose main life aim is to remain employable as a developer.

    Lots of us are here to ship stuff; to provide viable products that customers will like.

    Moving to AWS from Hetzner would not help me ship stuff. Moving to AWS from Hetzner would not result in a better product.