jccooper 3 years ago

> Btw, there's no retrofitting of existing buildings. Most of the laws only apply to new buildings and existing buildings get better as they're renovated. So buildings in NYC comply to the safety standard of whenever they were renovated last.

But that's the thing that's notable about fire escapes: they were a required retrofit. Building code changes are almost never retroactive, but in response to fires "have two paths of egress" was added, and because it was so important it was made retroactive. It being very difficult to add a stairway to an existing building, external stairways were allowed.

ajb 3 years ago

In the UK, there used apparently to be wheeled ladders at certain places to allow people to escape from fires. Here is one http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-l58hAZ64A0o/VW9FCenJSSI/AAAAAAAADz...

Because they were moved by hand, these had to be provisioned in each small local area.

Of course, this only worked because the buildings were mostly not very tall.

ljf 3 years ago

I was not expecting such an amazing and detailed article, that was so fun to read. I admit, I had to stop about a fifth of the way through as I have work to day, but firmly added to my favourites list for later reading.

hahamrfunnyguy 3 years ago

The patents in this article are great! They give new meaning to the phrase "Patent Troll". Who knew that BASE jumping was actually invented in the early 1900's?

IIAOPSW 3 years ago

Once, we were all really high and my roommates cig started a small trash fire. Upon noticing it (though being not wholly sure if it was fire or psychedelic distortions), we decided to put the flaming garbage can on the fire escape where it would be tomorrows problem. I mean that's what its for right? A place for the fire to escape. So obvious!

  • actionfromafar 3 years ago

    Did it work? Did it become tomorrows problem?

    • IIAOPSW 3 years ago

      sure did

      • MisterTea 3 years ago

        Did it involve calling the insurance company?

        • IIAOPSW 3 years ago

          Nope. The insurance company was interested in other things on that fire escape, like my giant semaphore lamp.

kqr 3 years ago

I believe this is the article that taught me the difference between firefighting and amateur response. 95 % of what my SRE team calls firefighting is amateur response.

eatonphil 3 years ago

Sort of related, I was reading a biography about Ford and after a fire at their factory in 1910 or something, they rebuilt it with "fire walls". Fire walls! Of course our term is borrowed from history. I was surprised. :)

julian_t 3 years ago

I once worked in an old building in London where the fire escape was partly constructed of wood, and also had the lightning conductor attached to it rather than the building itself. It would probably have done pretty well on the "fire", but not so well on the "escape"!

2rsf 3 years ago

FWIW This is @whereistanya, writer of The Staff Engineer's Path.