by Topfi 1 year ago

Update, Haiku 4.5 is not just very targeted in terms of changes but also really fast. Averaging at 220token/sec is almost double most other models I'd consider comparable (though again, far to early to make a proper judgement) and if this can be kept up, that is a massive value add over other models. That is nearly Gemini 2.5 Flash Lite speed for context.

Yes, we got Groq and Cerebras getting up to 1000token/sec, but not with models that seem comparable (again, early, not a proper judgement). Anthropic has been historically the most consistent in outperforming personal benchmarks vs public benchmarks, for what that is worth so I am optimistic.

If speed, performance and pricing are something Anthropic can keep consistent long term (i.e. no regressions), Haiku 4.5 really is a great option for most coding tasks, with Sonnet something I'd tag in only for very specific scenarios. Past Claude models have had a deficiency in longer term chains of tasks. Beyond 7 minutes roughly, performance does appear to worsen with Sonnet 4.5, as an example. That could be an Achilles heel for Haiku 4.5 as well, if not this really is a solid step in terms of efficiency, but I have not done any longer task testing yet.

That being said, Anthropic once again has a rather severe issue it seems, casting a shadow upon this release. From what I am seeing and others are reporting, Claude Code currently does count Haiku 4.5 usage the same as Sonnet 4.5 usage, despite the latter being significantly more expensive. They also did not yet update the Claude Code support pages to reflect the new models usage limits [0]. I really think such information should be public by launch day and hope they can improve their tooling and overall testing, it really continues to throw a shadow over their impressive models.

[0] https://support.claude.com/en/articles/11145838-using-claude...

qingcharles 1 year ago

It's insanely fast. I didn't know it had even been released, but I went to select the copilot SWE test model in VSCode and it was missing and Haiku 4.5 was there instead. I asked for a huge change to a web app and the output from Haiku scrolled the text faster than Windows could keep up. From a cold start. Wrote a huge chunk of code in about 40 seconds. Unreal.

p.s. it also got the code 100% correct on the one-shot p.p.s. Microsoft are pricing it out at 30% the cost of frontier models (e.g. Sonnet 4.5, GPT5)

katchu11 1 year ago

Hey! I work on the Claude Code team. Both PAYG and Subscription usage look to be configured correctly in accordance with the price for Haiku 4.5 ($1/$5 per M I/O tok).

Feel free to DM me your account info on twitter (https://x.com/katchu11) and I can dig deeper!

  • peddling-brink 1 year ago

    lol, I don’t know if you work there or not, but directing folks to send their account info to a random Twitter address is, not considered best practice.

    • ethbr1 1 year ago

      Being charitable, let's assume parent wasn't talking about secrets.

    • squigz 1 year ago

      What's wrong with sending a username to someone?

      • lukeck 1 year ago

        Generally, nothing inherently wrong with sending a username but directing people to a 3rd party social media platform rather than an official Anthropic email or support system does nothing to build trust that they actually work there.

    • rat9988 1 year ago

      What best practice. He can choose whether he sends or not. The guy is just offering some extra help here.

  • Topfi 1 year ago

    Thanks, sorry, only saw the offer now. Have just checked and cannot reproduce the usage any more, might have been mistaken on that front.

rbitar 1 year ago

Where do you get the 220 token/second? Genuinely curious as that would be very impressive for a model comparable to sonnet 4. OpenRouter currently publishing around 116/tps[1]

[1] https://openrouter.ai/anthropic/claude-haiku-4.5