jstanley 1 hour ago

> Real cardholders almost never buy something for exactly $1.00. Coffee is $4.73, gas is $52.81. The roundness is the signal.

Surely this depends on how the vendor sets their prices? If you're going to buy something from a website to test a stolen credit card you don't just get to make up your own prices.

And I think you may be over-indexing on the US "prices don't include tax" thing. Elsewhere, round-number prices are extremely common.

In fact a lot of the rest of the stuff in the post seems like it wouldn't work very well either. (E.g. you're flagging anyone who has done a transaction in the last 90 days outside the range of hours at which they have 2+ transactions? Wouldn't that be like 50% of people?).

It's unclear to me whether this article is an attempt at breaking down complex expertise into over-simplified SQL queries, or whether it is all speculative and made up.

There is a conflict between "Six SQL patterns I use to catch transaction fraud" and "Nothing here comes from anything I’ve actually worked on or seen".

  • normie3000 1 hour ago

    Worse than that.

    Coffee usually _is_ a round number in my experience, and I know of people who aim for round numbers when filling their car, and of fuel stations which require a pre-set value, often 10, 20, 50€ etc

  • themafia 20 minutes ago

    I'm seeing a few stores here and there which have a "round up to donate" option. I guess I'm a bit of a sucker and I always use that option. My groceries are always a round number as a result.

0cf8612b2e1e 49 minutes ago
  If a card swipes in Chicago and seven minutes later swipes in Los Angeles, one of those swipes is fake.

How does this work with online shopping? When I am sitting on the couch and buy from Amazon, where does the address get registered?

Can also imagine an edge case: couple shares an online account, one is traveling and purchases with the saved card details.

  • rootusrootus 42 minutes ago

    I believe the system distinguishes between card present and card not present.

  • teraflop 41 minutes ago

    Swiping a card (or inserting, or tapping) is a "card present" transaction. Online shopping, where you type in the card number, is a "card not present" transaction. Retailers and banks can tell the difference.

  • thedebuglife 41 minutes ago

    They can tell based on transaction metadata. Source: I worked at a cc company

crmd 1 hour ago

> Drawback: this doesn’t work until you have history. New accounts have no baseline.

This is an underrated CX factor: If my card gets denied when i’m a new customer or exhibiting a new pattern, i’m impressed with their software.

However if they deny a transaction where there is any previous history of me authenticating, then I’m frustrated by their naive paranoid algorithm.

sincerely 1 hour ago

This is quite interesting, but the blatantly AI generated explanations are like an anti-signal for quality

maciekkmrk 59 minutes ago

What if I go on a roadtrip and suddenly get gas at 2am?

  • vesrah 14 minutes ago

    I had this happen once - I flew to a city about 8 hours of driving time away to buy a motorcycle and landed late in the evening. My card was declined when I got gas a little after midnight and I had no cash or other card with me so I called the 24 hour support line. I had a quick conversation with a support agent explaining that I was traveling and the card needed to be reactivated right away. Within five minutes the card was working and I was back to working my way down a long chain of mistakes.

achierius 1 hour ago

This seems interesting, but has so many signs of AI writing that I worry it's not just edited but generated from whole cloth. Probably still a lot of truth in there but it does give me pause!

> The roundness is the signal.

> Slight pain, same result.

to point at a few.

  • jorisnoo 14 minutes ago

    > Three filters. That’s it.

    And my favourite most hated pattern, the no no no:

    > Not machine learning, not graph databases, not whatever Gartner is hyping this year.