points by caminante 22 hours ago

How is a scheme systemically racist when >50% of 13M green card holders are from Latin/South America and Caribbean?

You can't be serious.

skulk 19 hours ago

I'm having trouble taking your comment seriously if you think that one number is enough to disprove systemic racism.

  • caminante 8 hours ago

    That's a strawman.

    Even so, you're "having trouble" acknowledging a singular fact that calls a claim into question? Is two facts the magic number? Three? Why is one insufficient?

    It'd be more effective to offer an actual reason.

    • skulk 6 hours ago

      Demanding proof of systemic racism every time it's brought up is kind of gauche and just tiring. You don't have to believe that it exists, but it very much does. I know you're going to clap back at me and say "so you have no argument, got it" and yes I'm not going to present you with one. I'm just telling you the way you're arguing this is kind of lame and incurious.

      • caminante 5 hours ago

        >I know you're going to...

        Well, I'm apparently not in the imagined conversation you're having. Seems insecure to pre-bake an out for a hypothetical.

        Never rejected systemic racism exists, but calling everything racist without substance (and accusing people of ignoring system racism without support) erodes meaning.

        I suggest reviewing the HN guidelines for comments. If you disagree with them, this forum may not be for you.