astrashe2 2 hours ago

Windows 95 was definitely better for MS users, but it was really just patching a hole in a single company's product line. Macs were far more solid than Win 95/98/SE at the time, and things like Sun Sparc 5s were more solid than Macs. Before people were getting hit with security problems all the time, they used to go years without rebooting Unix servers.

It was more like one company with a stranglehold on the market was terrible. The intensity of that has waxed and waned, but that's been true from then all the way until now.

antonvs 2 hours ago

Good grief, what a ridiculous claim.

  • MoonWalk 2 hours ago

    Yep, and replete with inaccuracies.

    "Before it, using a computer was synonymous with staring at the black MS-DOS screen. Want to play a game? You had to type annoying commands like cd C:\games\doom and pray the system wouldn't throw a conventional memory error."

    Wrong, obviously, since Windows already existed. But then comes this odd statement:

    "Windows 3.1, which came before, was just a shell on top of DOS. It was a messy pile of floating windows that easily got lost behind one another."

    Also wrong. There wasn't anything fundamentally different about window management in 95. And Program Manager was a much better way to organize and access applications than the Start menu, which violated Microsoft's own guidelines for nested-menu depth.

    The Start menu created a problem that has only gotten worse. Installers would create entire sub-menus by vendor name; so instead of looking for "TurboCAD," for example, you'd somehow be expected to look under "Imsi." Obnoxious.

    For a while you could still put your applications into groups in the Start menu, if you knew where to go in the filesystem. So, get this, you could put your audio apps into one group, your dev tools in another, your graphics applications in another... INCREDIBLE, right? And some installers did the right thing and asked you where in the Start menu you wanted to app shortcut to be.

    But today, organizing your apps is essentially impossible. Yeah, you can "pin" a limited number of them here and there, but still not in groups. The sad thing is that Apple has regressed on this too, with the deletion of Launchpad. Now you're wading through hundreds of applications.

    I agree that Microsoft advanced the GUI more than anyone else in the '90s, but it has undone all of that and more by now. What a disaster the Windows UI is today.

    • runjake 1 hour ago

      Windows 95 was a shell on top of DOS. That didn’t change until Windows 2000 Desktop.

      • SpecialistK 1 hour ago

        You're forgetting NT 3.1, 3.5, and 4.0.

      • MoonWalk 48 minutes ago

        I didn't say otherwise...

      • dcrazy 41 minutes ago

        Neither Windows 3.1 nor Windows 95 were mere shells atop DOS. As early Windows 2.0 in 386 Enhanced Mode (Win/386), it was a virtual machine manager that took complete control of the machine and ran the Windows GUI and DOS in separate VMs.

    • wpm 37 minutes ago

      You can still go to that same folder though, you just need a Start Menu replacement like OpenShell to get a sane Start Menu appearance.

  • vunderba 16 minutes ago

    Agreed. From the article:

    > Before August 1995, using a computer was an intimidating ordeal. You either knew how to handle black command lines or you were stuck with some pretty patched-up graphical interfaces.

    Did the author just blank the entire Mac computer line-up from their memory? System 1 had a finder/menu/window management/etc. and came out all the way back in '84.

atxpace 1 hour ago

It was a great consumer product at the time but "last true revolution"?? Sorry, but you've missed a lot. ;)