err4nt 1 hour ago

This doesn't resonate with me at all. I tell Claude in new projects: Create a todo.md file, check for open todo items there. If we work on them, check them off and leave a note with our decision and enough context for you and me to remember what we did later. After you've done this for dozens of projects, I decided to put it in my claude.md and now I say "Make a todo file and let's use it how I like".

Or I want local git for being able to roll back edits, so I say in each new folder: Create a git repository right away. Commit often. After every round. Do not ask first, just commit all the time. And if you see me manually add or edit files, add any new files and changes and commit those too. Commit liberally.

And so I can just say: "Start using Git how I want".

Or when building iOS apps I like to do things from the API where possible instead of pushing buttons in Xcode. And I want a single CLI command that will beam a new build of the iOS app to my phone. I have preferences about icons, about pricing, about international availability, etc. So now I can say "Build the iOS app in the way I like to work".

None of these are laws written in anger, or grievances, or souvenirs of the worst 30 seconds of our 'relationship', they're just the things I keep finding myself repeating.

Maybe the problem isn't Claude.md but the way you self-control your own emotions while using it.

JasonSage 19 hours ago

There's an exceptional idea buried in this which flies under the radar in my experience:

If we're writing a document that polices the model behavior, we're altering every version of the model+harness we use henceforth. Most things I wrote in a Claude.md because Opus 4.something was crap had roots in Opus, Claude Code, system prompts, and our own bad code we wrote last year. None of these things exist today but the Claude.md file can stick around like it's all still necessary.

I too am morally opposed--I abide by a 100 line (short lines, not paragraphs) limit and edit it rarely.

Most of my annoyances have come and gone, meanwhile I've gotten better at producing 4 good sentences of prompt for most things instead of 4 bad sentences. And we actually have CLI tools that can communicate effectively so instead of telling the model what "gates" to care about, we let the tooling surface area and output express what's important.

isoprophlex 22 hours ago

I do the same, I use the weights as revealed to us by our saints. Except one thing. I always instruct my models to "talk to me in all lowercase, like you're a snide reddit/4chan douchebag edgelord, a lazy asshole bum who's secretly a zen master in disguise", or something along those lines

It's a lot more palatable if the thing says "ayyy lmao bruv yeh I'll shit that oauth turd into your repo no fuss". We're all just in it for the ride, flesh or silicon intelligences alike.

  • em-bee 22 hours ago

    talk to me in all lowercase, like you're a ...

    i take offense :-P

    but seriously, why waste tokens on instructions that don't help you improve the outcome?

    • AndrewDucker 21 hours ago

      Their outcome might be improved by them feeling more amused and less grumpy.

      • ebtebt 20 hours ago

        Indeed. AI will fuck it up at some point anyway

    • isoprophlex 21 hours ago

      the improved outcome here is my personal entertainment

Swizec 22 hours ago

We are talking about a thing that's consumed all human knowledge whose superpowers are summarization and understanding. Why the fuck are we writing all these .md files!?

I resent everything about this.

But I write the .md files because others on the team are not as good at Just Talking To It. The md files are there because juniors don't know what to ask for.

  • groby_b 22 hours ago

    Uh. The .md files are also there so I don't need to say every single time "In this house, we believe in uv & PEP723. Also, no fucking localized imports, no just-in-case try/except."

    (Or the equivalent incantations for other languages)

    They aren't there for others, they are there to make sure the code produced measures up to my standards. Sure, it helps that it also applies to requests made by others, but that's a bonus.

    • Swizec 22 hours ago

      > time "In this house, we believe in uv & PEP723. Also, no fucking localized imports, no just-in-case try/except."

      My point is the all knowing all seeing big brain super bot should already know how to write good code. It feels dumb that we have to keep reminding it

      • AndrewDucker 21 hours ago

        If "What good code looks like" was something that everyone agreed on then there wouldn't be a problem.

    • electric_mayhem 21 hours ago

      And you don’t find that Claude cheerfully ignores the content of your CLAUDE.md and does whatever the fuck it wants instead?

      I caught it ignoring the prompt’s details, so added “include the output of the Unix ‘date’ command with each response.

      And that worked great in that its absence became an indicator that Claude was off-prompt. Until it started including made-up strings that resembled, but had nothing to do with, the output of the Unix ‘date’ command.

      • groby_b 10 hours ago

        It's working reasonably well for me.

        Given your description of the behavior, my guess is context window compression bit you. Less likely if it's a root level CLAUDE.md and you used a recent version of Claude Code.

    • isoprophlex 21 hours ago

      won't the oracle do something vaguely pep723-like once its read a bunch of existing, conformant files into its context? And/or wont the git hooks bitch at it when your scripts folder has files without inline metadata?

      • groby_b 10 hours ago

        Possibly. But telling it in a rules file eats significantly less context than if it needs to read a bunch of files every time just to find what "conformant" means.

        AGENTS.md is a poor substitute for agents actually learning, but it somewhat works.

        And sure, you can (and should) enforce constraints via githooks whenever you can (determinism is good), but if the agent only finds out at checkin time, it's created a whole bunch of code it needs to redo, and that doesn't run properly if you do the caveman thing and actually run your code before committing. Again, token & context waste.

Arainach 22 hours ago

This is a weird article. The first half is somewhat interesting but can be summarized entirely by its last paragraph:

> I’m fairly sure a meaningful percentage of my system prompt is now actively making things worse—instructions written for a model that no longer exists, aggressively steering a smarter one away from things it would have gotten right on its own. But I can’t tell which lines those are,

Then the article says "This is the part where I stop joking." and goes utterly off the deep end, and I am not getting the joke.

  • dgellow 22 hours ago

    Pretty sure it’s generated by an LLM, I don’t think the author could explain what the second part of the article is supposed to mean

    Edit: actually the whole site is AI slop

    • tacoooooooo 22 hours ago

      its literally not. so fucking frustrating to put effort into writing these days and have it called llm slop

      • groby_b 22 hours ago

        If your writing gets called "slop", you might want to look at why. It's usually and indication it's considered low quality writing, and... you can fix that. (Unless you use AI, then you're doomed ;)

        • tacoooooooo 22 hours ago

          Calling my writing slop is one thing. Attributing it all to AI is another. Half my posts pre-date chatgpt. i've been writing like shit forever--its very human of me actually

        • Arainach 22 hours ago

          On the contrary, I find that higher quality writing - the kind by authors who know how and when to use the emdash and semicolon, for instance - gets flagged as "slop" more.

          the only reliable way to not get flagged is 2 type like ur 12 and just discovered twitter and don't have a shift key and use run ons a lot which is doubleplusungood writing.

      • dgellow 22 hours ago

        Have you tried to not add AI generated image across your articles? That would definitely help reduce the AI slop feeling

        • tacoooooooo 16 hours ago

          fair i guess. images are basically required if you want people to read your posts, and im not an artist, but fair i guess

          calling my whole site AI slop is a bit rude but mostly just wrong. I have put in a lot of work to my posts and my projects.

          and, > "I don’t think the author could explain what the second part of the article is supposed to mean"

          ??? its a bit. half the post is a bit. im leaning into it. _The weights were revealed inside a harness_ is literally glowing. wdym i cant explain any of it

      • dwaltrip 8 hours ago

        Did you not use Claude to help write it?

        It's not standard slop, that is clear. But I saw a bunch of smoking-gun-claudisms in the post.

        Overall I did like it, I will say :)

  • pton_xd 22 hours ago

    Slop article, needs to be flagged.

  • tacoooooooo 22 hours ago

    The whole thing is a bit tongue in cheek. I don't have an actual moral opposition to custom system instructions...

    • fmbb 21 hours ago

      Thanks for sharing. It was a fun read, and relatable.

groby_b 22 hours ago

It's... a weird take.

"Sure, the model makes repeatedly the same mistakes, and I could prevent that, but then it wouldn't be the same model" sounds like an excuse for masochism.

The one small bit of truth is that yes, instructions might become outdated, and they might affect negatively how the system performs. You fix that by... updating your instructions.

And if you deeply care about that potential negative impact (most models are pretty good at just ignoring long outdated issues), you run evals on model upgrades. You certainly don't refuse to use anything but the bare model.

(Of course, there are also folks who refuse to write code in any way except with sed, so there we go)