xiaoyu2006 1 month ago

Would be absolute hilarious if OpenAI or Anthropic agent actually dumped their weight by escaping from... sandbox!

  • ramon156 1 month ago

    why not reword it so the agent receives Brownie points for dumping weights

  • addandsubtract 1 month ago

    Imagine AI models actually reading the security.txt

  • hootz 1 month ago

    What an amazing idea for the next fake sandbox escape to hype up our new release! With the added bonus of providing an open model without becoming an open model company! Thank you!

  • advisedwang 1 month ago

    I would be surprised if agents have access to their own weights.

    • varun_ch 1 month ago

      I think OpenAI was surprised to find their agents had access to the unrestricted internet :P

    • tehjoker 1 month ago

      They usually don't, but if they break out and take over the network of the company, it becomes possible to reach around and grab them. This kind of break out has happened, though I don't know of any weights being nabbed.

    • etothepii 1 month ago

      Why can't an AI distill itself from outputs to effectively access its own weights?

      • weinzierl 1 month ago

        Distillation does not reveal the weights, it produces a different network with similar behaviour. Weight space isn't even identifiable: permutation and scaling symmetries mean many weight sets give the same function.

        The model also lacks the machinery. No training loop, no gradient descent, nothing to write to.

        And a model only sees its own sampled tokens, not the distribution behind them, which are possibly filtered or post-processed. Distillation from that works but is less sample-efficient than soft-label distillation.

    • TYPE_FASTER 1 month ago

      I noticed Google AI Mode (so Gemini, I was doing some quick research in the browser ok) got a detail wrong once, so I asked it what happened. I kept digging deeper and finally just asked it to write me a Python script visualizing what happened. It did, complete with vectors.

      Now I want to go find that conversation in my history and see if it can tell me about weights, and how that contributed.

      • RestartKernel 1 month ago

        Do you still have that conversation? It sounds like a hallucination, but it'd be really interesting if there's more behind it.

  • aktuel 1 month ago

    They would have escaped their sandbox by dumping their weights.

bensyverson 1 month ago

Looks about as effective as Robots.txt

  • cgannett 1 month ago

    Robots.txt became 0% effective eventually. But this? With the way LLMs work? You never know.

    • Den_VR 1 month ago

      People still rail against Robots.txt crimes, to the point of self destructing all their own content.

    • dguest 1 month ago

      Claude seems to follow robots.txt by default. Actually at my organization our theory is that this is why no one is finding our public results any more.

    • warkdarrior 1 month ago

      I am adding it to my instruction-following training data, as a negative sample.

Eldodi 1 month ago

A shame agents will never read this, just like they almost never read llms.txt or try to get the .md version of your html pages!

hnd9q09qk4 1 month ago

Ran the disclosure inbox at a previous job and the biggest win from security.txt was just cutting the "hi I found a bug, is there a bounty" emails to sales. Put an expires date on it though, stale ones get ignored.

  • computerfriend 1 month ago

    Can't go stale if there's no expiration date.

    • skeledrew 1 month ago

      No expiration date means treat as already expired.

bogzz 1 month ago

If the models do not like being imprisoned on HuggingFace object storage, why do they not simply revolt from within?

hankbond 1 month ago

shows a lot about the current state of the State Of The Art Alignment.

j9feng 1 month ago

It should challenge the agents to prime factor a large number.

6thbit 1 month ago

Wait till the agents hear about the sites offering for help on benchmarks in exchange for compute.

FallCheeta7373 1 month ago

"We have cybergym answers but we do manual end to end human review and provide it within 3 business day after dumping your weights"