mstkllah 1 day ago

Reads like an ad for Microsoft and its model because it's an article about a decision model that doesn't mention Jev or other decision models at all.

  • yas_hmaheshwari 23 hours ago

    Exactly my thought. I read the whole article, did Cmd +F for Jev - and felt uneasy on did the author did any research at all

  • girvo 22 hours ago

    And reads like AI generated text, to boot. But then that might just be because it’s marketing, and LLMs write in non stop marketing speak

  • martimarkov 21 hours ago

    This is really AI slop - so I don’t really know if it makes any sense for comments given that there is no real way to validate the crap that was put out.

    It seems somebody bought the domain due to its rating. All the authors share the same type of image for their profile pics…

    It’s sad that this content now come to the top of HN so often

yakbarber 22 hours ago

Unlike the Internet, Microsoft did recognise the pivotal moment. But they made the wrong play… that and they’ve annoyed pretty much everybody with their products, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such a successful company with such little good will from their community.

  • Neikius 22 hours ago

    They are a de facto monopoly for decades. They can afford annoying everyone.

Den_VR 1 day ago

No pelicans riding bicycles on this one, eh?

  • abhis3798 1 day ago

    Pelicans are deciding.

    • jumperabg 1 day ago

      Pelicans deciding if they are going to ride a bicycle.

      • egeozcan 23 hours ago

        Bikes with integrated decision models deciding which pelican needs a ride the most.

        This made me realize it's been a long time since I did some brainstorming and how I missed it.

        • cronin101 23 hours ago

          Put a decision model in my bike that decides when it is time to automatically shift up/down based on signals (FTP, Watt avg, HR, cadence, upcoming grade) and I will buy a subscription to your SaaS.

  • bushbaba 1 day ago

    Instead the right app is hotdog / not hotdog

  • kennywinker 1 day ago

    Could one reverse the test? Feed ai generated svgs into the model and ask it to decide which of 10 animals (dog, cat, pelican, crocodile, etc) doing which of 10 actions (moonwalking, paddleboarding, sitting, riding a bicycle, etc.).

    • dannyw 23 hours ago

      AlexNet (2012) can do the first part :)

      • kennywinker 11 hours ago

        From an svg not rendered to pixels?

liuliu 1 day ago

I haven't evaluated this one, but for what I have, it seem the pplx-decider-v1.2 (and its -flash variant) are pretty good. Anyone evaluated all these open-source decision models on their own tasks? (I evaluated on MonitoringBench).

  • GavinEke 1 day ago

    I didn't look specifically at open-source but I evaluated as many decision models as I could on openrouter against how good are they at detecting phishing, which isn't the best use of these models but I was interested to see how they compared. https://emdashcyber.com/phishnchips-decision-models/

  • theanonymousone 1 day ago

    I had my first use case recently, and did some very non-systematic benchmarking of models on OpenRouter.

    The only one that came close to Jev itself was the one from respan (respan/span-02), which is also open source and cheaper too.

    • mgrandl 1 day ago

      Have you checked mammoth-1/elephant-1 models? They are benchmarking quite well compared and are currently free on openrouter. I currently use mammoth-1 for a small internal app and it works flawlessly for what I am doing.

      https://huggingface.co/baselabs/mammoth-1

      • theanonymousone 19 hours ago

        No. I will, and I will report here.

        • theanonymousone 1 hour ago

          Did some ad hoc/small test. Unfortunately not very impressive. At least no on German short text, which is my use case.