gophigure 21 hours ago

What I find problematic, especially for teams that rely on GitOps and GitHub being (relatively) stable, is the fact that GitHub's status page can't be relied on. You arrive at the conclusion, "this must be GitHub," but the status page rejects the notion, and so you go digging. That can lead to a lot of toil and wasted time, in addition to sideways looks paired with comments like, "but status shows green."

A sick person with symptoms is clearly sick, but sometimes they're asymptomatic. That's what the GitHub status page has become. When it's red and showing problems, you know you have problems. When it's all green? You know you MIGHT have problems.

That can make outages like this harder to triage, since reality is a black box.

  • c0rruptbytes 20 hours ago

    I can imagine a lot of people moving to OCI instead of GitOps

    • stryan 20 hours ago

      OCI layering on top of running systems a la bootc? or OCI as the desired state storage for CM?

      • stackskipton 20 hours ago

        SRE here, OCI for storing deployment config information, most of time, Kubernetes manifest files/Helm Charts.

        • stryan 19 hours ago

          Gotcha, that's what I figured but I was still curious. I've got a side-project that was originally designed for traditional GitOps but got OCI support as a feature submission from a user. I've been seeing more usage of the OCI backend these days and originally figured it was a side-effect of the project domain (Podman Quadlets) but maybe it is an over all field shift.

          • bdsa 19 hours ago

            In the last couple of weeks, I've been moving a deployment stack off ArgoCD pointing at Git, and ended up settling on Flux fetching OCI artifacts from ECR. The artifacts are built and pushed by GitHub Actions. It seems like a nice way to "have GitOps" without needing GitHub to be up all the time.

          • c0rruptbytes 5 hours ago

            I think so, Argo CD appsets are even getting an OCI generator in the next release (3.6)

            ECR just seems to work really well for most people and IAM is nice compared to Github Apps + rate limits

  • arccy 20 hours ago

    This is why you ignore everything for at least 30 min before starting to investigate...

  • jeroenhd 20 hours ago

    Github is fast in updating their status compared to other companies. Amazon has to be bombed, on fire, and in the news before their status page shows anything about any ongoing issues.

    I assume these companies have some kind of uptime guarantee in their contracts, because they seems to care more about covering their asses than about informing customers.

    • giwook 19 hours ago

      Comparing one shitty set of standards to another shitty set of standards… hmm

    • sleepybrett 18 hours ago

      No they aren't, we can see outages coming 20+ minutes before GH reports them.

      We have outages on our books that they never reported even after we ticketed them.

      They cook the stats like an inner city police department.

      • chanux 18 hours ago

        Not fraud from a legal point of view I guess /s

      • beardedetim 13 hours ago

        Me and a colleague were just ranting about how there's no way in hell Actions has 99.6% uptime but yet that's what their status page says. Maybe it's just bias and I am only remembering the minutes that it's down what feels like every week or multiple times a week. But I'm suspicious of their stats, even if they declare an incident on the status page.

    • deathanatos 13 hours ago

      > Github is fast in updating their status

      Github's status page is incredibly slow in comparison to the status page Github themselves used to have, which had several key metrics of various systems that would update in real time, and when they did have a (comparatively rare) outage, would usually have at least one metric going "yeah, something is wrong".

  • ozyschmozy 18 hours ago

    > "this must be GitHub," but the status page rejects the notion, and so you go digging

    Don't know about you but at this point I've learned to recognize and ignore GitHub issues even when they haven't admitted to it yet

  • defraudbah 15 hours ago

    show me one status page that's reliable, it turned into smoke and mirrors

    • solyin 15 hours ago

      downforeveryoneorjustme.com is a high level way to gather that data

      • thwarted 13 hours ago

        Extremely high level, and mainly merely "is the site accessible". However, github having issues with "issues" or "pull requests" is a functionality, not an accessibility, degradation, which can often only be discovered by actually trying to perform the action/use the functionality and comparing the result to he expected result.

  • spartanatreyu 13 hours ago

    What you're looking for:

    Question 1: Is it github, or is it everyone:

    Answer: https://downdetector.com/

    (If everyone's having issues, then stop. Otherwise, continue below...)

    ---

    Question 2: Is it github?

    Answer 2: https://www.githubstatus.com/

    Question 3: Why are you lying to me, is it github or not?

    Answer 3: https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

    (If github is not having issues, then check your local environment. Otherwise, continue...)

    ---

    Question 4: Why is it always github, surely they're not that bad right?

    Answer: https://www.dayswithoutgithubincident.com/

    (Perhaps its time to consider an alternative to github, or at least a mirror)

  • chrisjj 12 hours ago

    Each status page update requires preapproval by the PR dept.

a-squirrel-comm 1 day ago

It looks like today there was maintenance scheduled to deprecate support for certain categories of SSH keys: https://github.blog/changelog/2026-09-22-security-improvemen...

> November 4, 2026: We’ll have a brownout of the removal of the ssh-rsa signature type (i.e., RSA keys using SHA-1) and the diffie-hellman-group-exchange-sha256 key exchange algorithm.

I guess something went sideways.

  • igleria 1 day ago

    hey how much do I owe you for this INCREDIBLY important information? This is not sarcasm btw.

    • a-squirrel-comm 1 day ago

      nothing :) hope they'll release a statement soon, this is was an assumption on my side, it might be totally wrong. I had intermittent issues with basic git pull/push ops locally so I went to dig a bit. ps: if you do have money to spare, consider donating to the EFF (https://www.eff.org) though B)

      • igleria 1 day ago

        thanks a bunch! will do.

      • DanielHB 22 hours ago

        hah I was wondering why I was getting invalid key errors from github

  • qtqtqt 1 day ago

    How to check if one's SSH keys are still compatible?

    • dist-epoch 1 day ago

      if any of your SSH key files are bigger than 500 bytes, you should rotate them

      • mschuster91 23 hours ago

        EC keys should be much smaller... this is only valid for id_rsa SSH keys

        • anamexis 22 hours ago

          That’s the point.

      • matja 22 hours ago

        Even mldsa44-ed25519?

  • pksunkara 17 hours ago

    If this is truly the cause of the outage, then the incident looks like a result of GitHub's own vibecoding instead of the increase in usage.

    Disclaimer: I am building a code forge myself

    • shawabawa3 16 hours ago

      That's not a disclaimer it's just an ad

rarisma 1 day ago
       - - >  i wake up - -
       |                  |
       |                  V
       github has an outage
  • dodslaser 22 hours ago

    Do you fall asleep every time GitHub has an outage? Are you narcoleptic?

    • shepherdjerred 19 hours ago

      You have it wrong. GitHub goes down because they fall sleep

  • binsquare 21 hours ago

    A manager might say you need to stop waking up.

  • GrantMoyer 21 hours ago

    Point of clarification: do you work at GitHub?

    • Chris2048 20 hours ago

      Perhaps they are a process/thread?

  • gib444 18 hours ago
      def is_github_down(day):
          return day[-1] == "y"
    • sigmarule 10 hours ago

      All will be solved by tomorrow!

  • lta 16 hours ago

    It must be Tuesday, that's why

eknkc 1 day ago

Our deploys are tied to GitHub actions and it is becoming a liability at this point. What alternatives do people use? I mean for FOSS there are some decent stuff but we need a reliable provider for private repos.

  • misswaterfairy 1 day ago

    Genuine question: if you're hosting private repos, is self-hosting an option?

    Gitea Enterprise would be worth looking at.

    https://about.gitea.com/products/gitea-enterprise/

    • eknkc 1 day ago

      Honestly, not really wanna deal with self hosting it. Would rather pay for a decent service at this point.

      • import 1 day ago

        There is already a blacksmith sh if you don't want to selfhost your runners. Or codeberg as a full solution if I am not mistaken.

        • michaelbuckbee 1 day ago

          +1 for Blacksmith. You need to have a Github org to use it as it won't work on personal accounts, but it feels like a magic want that just makes runners 2x as fast.

          I have it for all my stuff (dozens of repos and hundreds of PRs/builds per week) and it's only once in the last year that I've exceeded the free resource levels. I don't know if it's just extra capacity or they're burning VC dollars in the hopes of inspiring posts like this, but either way I feel like I'm taking advantage of them at this point.

          • booi 13 hours ago

            But doesn't Blacksmith piggy back off of the Github Actions control plane? Outages will just spread to Blacksmith

        • crote 1 day ago

          Codeberg only allows F/LOSS software, for most companies that's a dealbreaker.

          • tcfhgj 23 hours ago

            Private projects usually are not owned by companies

            • crote 18 hours ago

              Your proprietary personal hobby project doesn't need an entire publicly-accessible Forge, it can just live on your local drive or home server. It is also not critical enough that GitHub occasionally being down is a big deal.

              If you're looking for a publicly-accessible Forge SaaS for your private repos and are willing to pay for it, you are almost certainly a company developing proprietary software.

  • pelagicAustral 1 day ago

    My deployments are tied to their container registry, so I'm equally screwed... Been thinking of going back to Dokku, I started working on a third wrapper around Dokku (yeah, I've literally done this twice already), and then self-host and self-provision... I honestly thinking seriously about this.

  • saturn_vk 1 day ago

    Self-hosted Forgejo with a bunch of runners might also be interesting for you. The workflow syntax is _almost_ identical to the github one.

  • import 1 day ago

    gitea is amazing.

    • raddan 1 day ago

      Seconded. Also very easy to set up. I’ve been running it for years, along with webhooks to kick off testing and website deployment jobs. I especially like the swagger browser that generate API calls for you to try in curl. I use the API pretty extensively.

  • rozularen 1 day ago

    self hosted forgejo has been my saviour. im thinking in acquiring a new NUC server to increase compute and storage to my homelab to add some new runners

  • myaccountonhn 1 day ago

    Post receive hook on a bare git repo with gitolite for access control.

  • jelder 1 day ago

    Git itself usually works, but we gave up on GHA and use https://www.rwx.com/ for tests, previews, and deployments. It’s 2x to 10x faster than GitHub Actions and testing uncommitted changes on real CI infrastructure is a total game changer.

  • embedding-shape 23 hours ago

    You don't even have to migrate off GitHub if you don't want to.

    Begin by refactoring the deployments so they're driven by checked in shellscripts, that accepts a git reference to deploy (prefer immutable commit SHAs over mutable branches/tags). Make it use the stuff it already has checked in, and make the actual GitHub Actions stuff as small and concise as possible, ideally each "run" should just call a shellscript with the git reference.

    Then move so the deploys happen not on GitHub Actions itself, but on a "intermediate deploy host" that has the source code and access to the credentials you need, and make this host have one secure entrypoint, where someone (or something) can enter and run shellscripts, after pushing their code as a normal git push. Then switch so the deploys from GitHub Actions instead use this new host to do the deploys. Lock down this host hard.

    When GitHub and/or GitHub Actions go down, the developer responsible for deploying stuff, should be able to get temporary git and ssh access to this host, can push any git data straight to the host, and their user on this host can run the deploy scripts. Keep in mind that nothing in your deployment process should depend on stuff that isn't also available on this "deploy host", if you have multiple synced repositories and so on.

    Now things mostly work the same as people are used to, with the added benefit that when things go down again (like next week), you'll still be able to continue to deploy stuff.

    I've done this refactor/migration for tens of companies in the last year, more or less following this exact template for all of them, with no issues reported from either of them, but lots of praise :)

  • SkiFire13 23 hours ago

    Some of our deploys use CircleCI instead, but they were still broken because they couldn't checkout from Github.

  • bonetruck 23 hours ago

    Forgejo backed by Woodpecker CI running on Kubernetes (Talos) has been amazing! Ditch Github Actions syntax for the simplicity of Woodpecker and containers. You'll thank me later.

  • stack_framer 23 hours ago

    We use GitLab where I work. The only problem is it calls pull requests "merge requests," and I don't think I'll ever get used to saying "MR" instead of "PR."

    • hhh 23 hours ago

      I have the opposite

    • jaapz 22 hours ago

      Why are all you github people pulling on your requests?

      I am requesting to merge my changes into the main branch.

      • dutchbart 21 hours ago

        Or you are requesting me to pull your changes into my branch.

      • crote 18 hours ago

        Because in the good old days when git was still distributed, a merge often started with sending someone an email to obtain your newly-coded commits via `git pull`ing your "gpu-drivers-for-linus" branch from some URL pointing to your personal GitWeb install. In other words: it was a request to pull your code.

        Similarly: Why are the Gitlab people so happy to merge? Where is my "Rebase Request", "Squash Request", or "Cherry-pick Request"?

        • chrisweekly 17 hours ago

          good bit of lore.

          related tidbit: in git, "pull" is basically shorthand for "fetch + merge".

        • ajasmin 13 hours ago

          You can still do this on a GituHub PR. Pull the branch locally, read the code, try things out, rebase onto main…

          Once all is good, push into remote HEAD and GithHub should auto-close.

          Though, larger project tend to leave the final upstream merge to GitHub itself. Better access control and it’s easier to serialize merges through a single queue for very active projects.

  • Roark66 22 hours ago

    This is exactly why I don't understand companies (like some of my clients) that move from self hosted Jenkins to GH Actions.

    You're literally replacing a well designed resilient system with a single point of failure run by a different company...

    • Chris2048 20 hours ago

      > a well designed resilient system

      Wait, Jenkins?

      • iamjake648 17 hours ago

        Like with all things, it really depends on having someone competent stand it up and run it. I think we've already reached the point that this is totally worth it for mid-sized companies as opposed to giving MS money for GHA.

    • hiccuphippo 20 hours ago

      I get to tell my manager it's github's fault.

  • shimms 21 hours ago

    Buildkite with self hosted runners

    • maccard 17 hours ago

      Which is 4x the price of github, _plus_ the cost of the runners on top of it.

      It's a great service though

  • karolist 21 hours ago

    Self hosted Jenkins, been working wonderfully.

    • maratc 19 hours ago

      I use Jenkins too, however any pipeline starts by checkout from github, so it failed this morning just the same.

      • karolist 19 hours ago

        Same for me, ssh access was intermittent, but at least I have reliable local builds when GitHub actions is out but access works. With AI running Jenkins is not that hard. I build large cuda containers so cost alone ruled out hosted builds for my usecase. There's a bit of update churn but nothing broke so far. I ran around 2000 builds last year. I run it on epyc 7v12 128gb ddr4 host.

  • icy 20 hours ago

    We're shipping private repos for Tangled very soon (tangled.org). Shoot me an email anirudh@!

thesdev 1 day ago

Finally a GitHub outage during European workday. Yaaay.

  • nope1000 1 day ago

    Although it is lunchtime :/

    • y-curious 22 hours ago

      Isn’t most of the European workday lunch time? :P

      I joke, the QoL is really nice

sognetic 1 day ago

Can't even pull no more using my key. That's a new low, I'm used to the website being janky nowadays but this is seriously essential

  • ayhanfuat 1 day ago

    At least they have a very clear error message so you know what is going on.

    > git@github.com: Permission denied (publickey). fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

    Please make sure you have the correct access rights and the repository exists.

    • chinathrow 1 day ago

      That's standard git, not coming from GH.

  • b1tshift 1 day ago

    Just rolled new keys and though I'm going crazy that it's not working

cashbreaker 1 day ago

I was thinking I'm going crazy with me ssh keys not working on both of my machines.

  • techterrier 1 day ago

    https is working still!

    git -c credential.helper= -c 'credential.helper=!gh auth git-credential' pull https://github.com/myorg/my-repo.git

    • gumbojuice 5 hours ago

      Surprisingly my AI reverted to exactly this, and I almost didn't notice until I had to review a colleague's PR and the merge button didn't work.

igleria 1 day ago

Can't they just... sell github back like when the germans sold the nuclear plant back to mr burns?

  • solyin 1 day ago

    As of 2026-11-04T10:25:34Z the domain MicrosoftPleaseGiveGithubToGoogle.com is still unclaimed.

    • selectnull 1 day ago

      Yes, really at this point it would be best if MS sold Github to Google and they kill it within a year.

    • zbentley 10 hours ago

      Ah yes, Google, known good steward of acquired companies’ projects and notable luminary in the developer tooling and workflow space.

      Wait…

fauzanhilmi 1 day ago

For a moment I thought my ssh key got breached. Fricking hell Github!

colek42 22 hours ago

Why do we need centralized CI? We just need a gate to make sure the code passes the right checks before we move the tip.

  • falcor84 22 hours ago

    Well, at the very least, that gate needs to be centralized in some way, right? Unless ... are you suggesting using a blockchain ledger for that?

    • nalekberov 22 hours ago

      I think blockchain ledger wouldn't be enough, there needs to be AI agents on top of that, that combined with some kind of harness layer, plus, ideally agents gossiping with each other and sometimes fighting with each other to get best results.

  • icy 20 hours ago

    That's the idea behind Tangled's spindles.

feukon 1 day ago

The day GitHub will no longer be free is approaching... they just can't support the abnormal amount of things being pushed rn

  • crote 1 day ago

    For most people here GitHub is already a paid platform. Our companies rely on it as a core part of our development workflows, and we pay a decent bunch of money for it. If it was only the free part of GH having issues, it wouldn't get even remotely near this kind of exposure.

    Developers are expensive. If I can't ship a feature on time because GitHub issues keeps forcing me to switch to different tasks to work around git/PR/ticket/Actions downtime, then that costs my company real money - despite us not being the source of the AI DDoS that GitHub has happily been welcoming.

    To me, the situation is very simple: either 1) rein in the AI deluge, or 2) isolate paying customers from it, or we'll move to an alternative.

    For businesses the current state of unreliability would be unacceptable if it was completely free, the fact that it is actually paid just adds insult to injury.

alper 23 hours ago

Same old same old.

What were the 60'000 people exiting Microsoft doing if not improving Github?

giwook 19 hours ago

It’s kinda funny that GitHub having issues continues to make HN front page.

Perhaps these types of posts should just be pinned at this point.

misnome 1 day ago

At this point, even when there isn't an incident, push/pull have been so unreliable as to fail about 30% of the time.

I can live with the occasional outage but this is a constant problem.

  • w3ll_w3ll_w3ll 1 day ago

    I feel there is a problem with your connectivity or with the Github datacenter you are being routed to. That has not been my experience.

chinathrow 1 day ago

git clone works sometimes, sometimes not.

grishka 1 day ago

I managed to push a commit over ssh but then the client threw an error before the push fully completed. I can see the commit on the web, but my client still thinks it isn't pushed. And now when I try to fetch I get "permission denied" after a long wait, which is scary. I first thought something got hacked.

Maybe they need a better AI model for their vibe coding. That'll fix everything, right? At least that's what my friends keep telling me when I say that the free LLMs I played around with a bit are incredibly dumb.

sigmonsays 19 hours ago

Github only has issues on days that end in Y!

znpy 20 hours ago

I miss working with a self-hosted gitlab instance.

dude250711 1 day ago

These days, perhaps, normal undisrupted operation should start counting as an incident...

esher 1 day ago

Again and again?

  • anon7000 1 day ago

    That is how explosive demand growth works after all. They just aren’t keeping up with increasing capacity or rate limiting people

  • crote 1 day ago

    GitHub is down only on days ending in -day.

dankobgd 22 hours ago

too much slop got them

larsnystrom 1 day ago

Why haven’t they asked an AI agent to fix all their bugs yet? /s

  • refactor_master 1 day ago

    Prompting the wrong things is just a skill issue.

  • Ampersander 23 hours ago

    Why does anyone even use Github anymore? Just generate a better forge with AI

fredsted 1 day ago

Just set up a Gitea instance, pushed my code and switched my deployment script to it. Took 30 minutes. Github pulls still aren't working.

malikolivier 1 day ago

GitHub outages can be a drain on productivity. If your stack is pulling artifacts from GitHub, and this consistently fails during GitHub outage, you can consider having a file-cache in between.

Some of our customers unexpectedly started using the service we're running as a file-cache around GitHub to mitigate GitHub outages.

We wrote about this use case in our blog: https://www.stablebuild.com/blog/protect-your-builds-from-gi...

  • jaapz 22 hours ago

    Self promotion is generally frowned upon here

    • juped 14 hours ago

      no, self-promotion is most of the content here, but it has to be somewhat aware of prevailing norms